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		<title>By: install windows vista upgrade as full version</title>
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		<dc:creator>install windows vista upgrade as full version</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;install windows vista upgrade as full version&lt;/strong&gt;

Nice points...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>install windows vista upgrade as full version</strong></p>
<p>Nice points&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vista Day 2: It Gets Worse &#171; VistaSucks.WordPress.Com</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanriley.com/2007/06/01/vista-day-2-it-gets-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-147888</link>
		<dc:creator>Vista Day 2: It Gets Worse &#171; VistaSucks.WordPress.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vista Day 2: It Gets&#160;Worse  Duncan Riley&#8217;s Vista Installation Saga Continues&#8230; &#8220;Yep, they?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢re telling me to reinstall Vista TWICE! Are they f*cking joking? I asked them to give me a key that works, they told me I?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢d have to buy it despite the fact that I?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢ve already purchased Vista and could provide them the Vista key and the original XP key. So I?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢ve got 29 days before Vista shuts down.&#8221; Read more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vista Day 2: It Gets&nbsp;Worse  Duncan Riley&#8217;s Vista Installation Saga Continues&#8230; &#8220;Yep, they?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢re telling me to reinstall Vista TWICE! Are they f*cking joking? I asked them to give me a key that works, they told me I?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢d have to buy it despite the fact that I?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢ve already purchased Vista and could provide them the Vista key and the original XP key. So I?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢ve got 29 days before Vista shuts down.&#8221; Read more. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ries van twisk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ries van twisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t feel the pain,

I bought a mac last year. It&#039;s is for sure not &#039;painless&#039;, but I feel much less fristrated behind a mac then behind a PC. My last system I really worked on was W2K. I have been playing with XP a bit... and I have never seen Vista in my live.

When I bought this mac is just worked, not messign around with drivers, updates and millions of CD I need to put in my computer (and restart one after eachother) just to get sound working.. Or when a piece of software doesn&#039;t work the vedors says: Do you have the newest driver from website XYZ?

A mac is not hassle free for sure, but much less hassle in general!

Ries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t feel the pain,</p>
<p>I bought a mac last year. It&#8217;s is for sure not &#8216;painless&#8217;, but I feel much less fristrated behind a mac then behind a PC. My last system I really worked on was W2K. I have been playing with XP a bit&#8230; and I have never seen Vista in my live.</p>
<p>When I bought this mac is just worked, not messign around with drivers, updates and millions of CD I need to put in my computer (and restart one after eachother) just to get sound working.. Or when a piece of software doesn&#8217;t work the vedors says: Do you have the newest driver from website XYZ?</p>
<p>A mac is not hassle free for sure, but much less hassle in general!</p>
<p>Ries</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 04:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan I feel the pain.  

Having gone down this route with various Microsoft operating systems.  

Are the Macs better.  Well like Adrian I too recently brought a Mac into my production cycle.  Is it easy to operate and use and generally does the OS get in the way.  Well yes and no. It is more productive.  Does the OS get in the way, yes but only in one instance.  Does it just work, - yes, it is true!  

Is there a big difference between OSX and Vista, well no. But its and small things on OSX and the Mac that help.  Mainly the fact that you can find the reliable add ons you need (like in the old days).

Will my next computer be a Mac or a PC.  Well if I can cross grade all the software (and some companies will not let you - GRRR) it will be a Mac.  If I could have OSX on a PC then that would be he best of both worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan I feel the pain.  </p>
<p>Having gone down this route with various Microsoft operating systems.  </p>
<p>Are the Macs better.  Well like Adrian I too recently brought a Mac into my production cycle.  Is it easy to operate and use and generally does the OS get in the way.  Well yes and no. It is more productive.  Does the OS get in the way, yes but only in one instance.  Does it just work, &#8211; yes, it is true!  </p>
<p>Is there a big difference between OSX and Vista, well no. But its and small things on OSX and the Mac that help.  Mainly the fact that you can find the reliable add ons you need (like in the old days).</p>
<p>Will my next computer be a Mac or a PC.  Well if I can cross grade all the software (and some companies will not let you &#8211; GRRR) it will be a Mac.  If I could have OSX on a PC then that would be he best of both worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 02:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Software activation is one of those things that either works and disappears, or doesn&#039;t and makes you pull your hair out. The issue with OEM keys and retail CDs on XP is another big issue, and probably exists for Vista too. Can&#039;t you install a Vista upgrade without installing XP anymore (XP lets you install an upgrade version from scratch as long as it checks your previous version&#039;s CD)? 

Speaking of which, I managed to get Kubuntu installed, up and running, complete with funky Beryl visual effects too in 4 hours yesterday. Am I going to switch to it? No, because there are too many apps I need that aren&#039;t available on it, but they&#039;ve sure improved the install experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Software activation is one of those things that either works and disappears, or doesn&#8217;t and makes you pull your hair out. The issue with OEM keys and retail CDs on XP is another big issue, and probably exists for Vista too. Can&#8217;t you install a Vista upgrade without installing XP anymore (XP lets you install an upgrade version from scratch as long as it checks your previous version&#8217;s CD)? </p>
<p>Speaking of which, I managed to get Kubuntu installed, up and running, complete with funky Beryl visual effects too in 4 hours yesterday. Am I going to switch to it? No, because there are too many apps I need that aren&#8217;t available on it, but they&#8217;ve sure improved the install experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Coffey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Coffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan I just did the same thing with my machine.  I bought the Windows Vista Ultimate and upgraded.  After upgrading and installing all my software, I went to the store bought a new motherboard for my kids machine.  I liked the new motherboard so much i installed it on my computer and gave the old mother to the kids.  The motherboard I got was a 3.33 Ghz Dual Core Celeron.  I then installed a firewire PCI card, a 1 TB external harddrive, a dual monitor graphics card, and a DVD-RW on my machine.  So needless to say the harddrive with Windows Vista did not work one bit anymore.  So I had to restore my Windows XP and then reinstall the Windows Vista Ultimate again.  Since I run my own webserver for my site.  I had to instal apache, and Mysql too.  Plus I added two gigs of memory.  This all took about 8 hours, and luckily the activation code worked for me.  But I do feel your pain, it was a huge pain in the ass to get the Windows Vista running again.  

My next computer is going to be a triple booted machine with windows, OS X, and Linux.  

Oh if you know anyone who wants to be hired as a blogger for my site, just have them e-mail cellounge at gmail dot com with a link to something else they have written.  I initially wanted ten writers, but I think I will stick with 5 for now.  I already have one fella who is interested.  I will pay $50.00 base, plus a penny per word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan I just did the same thing with my machine.  I bought the Windows Vista Ultimate and upgraded.  After upgrading and installing all my software, I went to the store bought a new motherboard for my kids machine.  I liked the new motherboard so much i installed it on my computer and gave the old mother to the kids.  The motherboard I got was a 3.33 Ghz Dual Core Celeron.  I then installed a firewire PCI card, a 1 TB external harddrive, a dual monitor graphics card, and a DVD-RW on my machine.  So needless to say the harddrive with Windows Vista did not work one bit anymore.  So I had to restore my Windows XP and then reinstall the Windows Vista Ultimate again.  Since I run my own webserver for my site.  I had to instal apache, and Mysql too.  Plus I added two gigs of memory.  This all took about 8 hours, and luckily the activation code worked for me.  But I do feel your pain, it was a huge pain in the ass to get the Windows Vista running again.  </p>
<p>My next computer is going to be a triple booted machine with windows, OS X, and Linux.  </p>
<p>Oh if you know anyone who wants to be hired as a blogger for my site, just have them e-mail cellounge at gmail dot com with a link to something else they have written.  I initially wanted ten writers, but I think I will stick with 5 for now.  I already have one fella who is interested.  I will pay $50.00 base, plus a penny per word.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 12:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for headsup, am in the process of chasing up a an el cheapo whitebox, with a huge monitor, was contemplating vista with a 2 gig of ram, however may run with XP instead.

Best Of Luck Though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for headsup, am in the process of chasing up a an el cheapo whitebox, with a huge monitor, was contemplating vista with a 2 gig of ram, however may run with XP instead.</p>
<p>Best Of Luck Though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience Macs are no-less troublesome. As a recent switch to Mac, I really don&#039;t find it any less frustrating than Vista/XP.

Though that said, I won&#039;t be switching back to Vista anytime soon - I do now prefer the Mac, but they are not &#039;leagues apart&#039; as some people would have you believe.

A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience Macs are no-less troublesome. As a recent switch to Mac, I really don&#8217;t find it any less frustrating than Vista/XP.</p>
<p>Though that said, I won&#8217;t be switching back to Vista anytime soon &#8211; I do now prefer the Mac, but they are not &#8216;leagues apart&#8217; as some people would have you believe.</p>
<p>A</p>
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		<title>By: John Evans (Syntagma)</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Evans (Syntagma)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go out and buy a new box with Vista pre-installed, Duncan. Upgrades are always ghastly and putting Vista on top of the now well messed-up XP is asking for trouble. Don&#039;t give up on it yet. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go out and buy a new box with Vista pre-installed, Duncan. Upgrades are always ghastly and putting Vista on top of the now well messed-up XP is asking for trouble. Don&#8217;t give up on it yet. <img src='http://www.duncanriley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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