Comments on: Yeah, so we need the NBN at any cost. I was wrong. http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/ blogging is not a spectator sport Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:39:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Health Resorts http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-338386 Health Resorts Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:57:15 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-338386 I completely agree with the your statement, I completely agree with the your statement,

]]> By: Health Resorts http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-337857 Health Resorts Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:57:15 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-337857 I completely agree with the your statement, I completely agree with the your statement,

]]> By: Health Resorts http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-331208 Health Resorts Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:57:15 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-331208 I completely agree with the your statement, I completely agree with the your statement,

]]> By: Isaak Kwok http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-328007 Isaak Kwok Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:33:02 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-328007 I had the same issue about 3 weeks back. The end result with iiNet was that within a week, they managed to transfer everything over to the new place. But my account was for a normal ADSL2+ account. However, what I found incredulous was that I had to get a new Telstra landline number! I had the same issue about 3 weeks back. The end result with iiNet was that within a week, they managed to transfer everything over to the new place. But my account was for a normal ADSL2+ account. However, what I found incredulous was that I had to get a new Telstra landline number!

]]> By: gtveloce http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-327999 gtveloce Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:08:23 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-327999 Ouch, that sounds like a painful but fairly common story. Having worked for both the largest telco and one of the smallest ISPs, plus a global ISP in the middle, my solution in the broadband era is simple - move just once, ensuring that you are now in spitting distance from an exchange. Retain a full service Telstra landline and reject any Optus offer to use their exchange equipment. Then pay through the nose for a good independent ISP's fastest broadband, even if it is 'slower' than other offers. Never move, never churn, never go 'naked'. Just bleed money and hope for better times in the next life. A secure solution, but not for everyone, I know. Ouch, that sounds like a painful but fairly common story. Having worked for both the largest telco and one of the smallest ISPs, plus a global ISP in the middle, my solution in the broadband era is simple – move just once, ensuring that you are now in spitting distance from an exchange. Retain a full service Telstra landline and reject any Optus offer to use their exchange equipment. Then pay through the nose for a good independent ISP's fastest broadband, even if it is 'slower' than other offers. Never move, never churn, never go 'naked'. Just bleed money and hope for better times in the next life. A secure solution, but not for everyone, I know.

]]> By: Rowan http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-327891 Rowan Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:36:36 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-327891 Yep, I went with the iiNet Naked DSL option and it took 6 weeks to connect thanks to Telstra. While waiting to get connected I had to use wireless Mobile Broadband from Three, which was completely unusable during peak hours (the only time I got the advertised speeds of 600kbps to 1.5Mbps was at 3am in the morning). Dial-up would've been quicker, but unfortunately I couldn't get that either until Telstra did their thing (which they were in absolutely no hurry to do). Yep, I went with the iiNet Naked DSL option and it took 6 weeks to connect thanks to Telstra. While waiting to get connected I had to use wireless Mobile Broadband from Three, which was completely unusable during peak hours (the only time I got the advertised speeds of 600kbps to 1.5Mbps was at 3am in the morning). Dial-up would've been quicker, but unfortunately I couldn't get that either until Telstra did their thing (which they were in absolutely no hurry to do).

]]> By: How to get a new home connected to ADSL 2 in Australia without a 1 month+ wait http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-327839 How to get a new home connected to ADSL 2 in Australia without a 1 month+ wait Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:49:38 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-327839 [...] See previous post for context. [...] [...] See previous post for context. [...]

]]> By: Christopher Hire http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-327841 Christopher Hire Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:04:12 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-327841 Hiya Duncan,<br><br>Spot on: how's this from the last few years:<br><br>3 weeks to get a business phone moved with Primus & 10 hours of combined labour.<br><br>$850 in disconnect fees & phantom charges from an ISP. Another ISP went bust, shut down all services, didn't tell customers until they couldn't connect.<br><br>Finally, Webcentral. 20 hours of effort to try & sort out 3 day outage of email & 6 months without fully functioning email.<br><br>The question becomes how the hell do you do business with the pack of lobotomized hairless chimpanzees that run the ICT sector in Australia? I've given up & switched to US companies mainly.<br><br>Even sadder, these marauding herd of insults-to-Darwinian--evolution, supervised by illiterate himbos/bimbos & managed by aging bald-headed former Telstra employees simply refuse to accept any innovation or change... <br><br><br><br>Christopher Hire Hiya Duncan,

Spot on: how's this from the last few years:

3 weeks to get a business phone moved with Primus & 10 hours of combined labour.

$850 in disconnect fees & phantom charges from an ISP. Another ISP went bust, shut down all services, didn't tell customers until they couldn't connect.

Finally, Webcentral. 20 hours of effort to try & sort out 3 day outage of email & 6 months without fully functioning email.

The question becomes how the hell do you do business with the pack of lobotomized hairless chimpanzees that run the ICT sector in Australia? I've given up & switched to US companies mainly.

Even sadder, these marauding herd of insults-to-Darwinian–evolution, supervised by illiterate himbos/bimbos & managed by aging bald-headed former Telstra employees simply refuse to accept any innovation or change…

Christopher Hire

]]> By: servantofchaos http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-327834 servantofchaos Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:32:52 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-327834 I was reduced to dial-in access when I moved in late 2007. I didn't appreciate broadband until then. But the experience did change the way that I think about the web. Luckily it was resolved in about two weeks - but not without a bunch of calls, escalations and out-and-out whinging. I was reduced to dial-in access when I moved in late 2007. I didn't appreciate broadband until then. But the experience did change the way that I think about the web. Luckily it was resolved in about two weeks – but not without a bunch of calls, escalations and out-and-out whinging.

]]> By: Neerav http://www.duncanriley.com/2009/06/29/yeah-so-we-need-the-nbn-at-any-cost-i-was-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-327833 Neerav Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:29:17 +0000 http://www.duncanriley.com/?p=1608#comment-327833 I picked up this issue a while back when noticing the comments of friends moving to new apartments <br><br>Telstra illogically requires a fixed line to be connected for new accounts before they let u apply for a Naked dialtone free ADSL2+ account with another provider<br><br>This makes apartment hunting really difficult for anyone who runs a home office because ADSL2+ applications can take 2-3 weeks to find out if you can get a port, in the meanwhile you'll have had to sign a lease, pay bond etc so are locked in regardless of whether you can get ADSL2+ or not :-( I picked up this issue a while back when noticing the comments of friends moving to new apartments

Telstra illogically requires a fixed line to be connected for new accounts before they let u apply for a Naked dialtone free ADSL2+ account with another provider

This makes apartment hunting really difficult for anyone who runs a home office because ADSL2+ applications can take 2-3 weeks to find out if you can get a port, in the meanwhile you'll have had to sign a lease, pay bond etc so are locked in regardless of whether you can get ADSL2+ or not :-(

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